One my most popular blog entries is one entitled Orgasm during Rape or Other Form of Sexual Abuse. In the comments, Palucci posted the following:
I woke up this morning. I realized something else about myself that I never questioned before. I am 39 years old and married for 10 years and I have never had an orgasm while having normal, traditional sex. The first time I had an orgasm during consensual sex it was oral. And that night I had the nightmare about being raped when I was a kid. Last night I was depressed, because recently it has also come to my attention that I use sex like I use cutting and burning. At the time it meets a need, but then I feel worse, remorseful. My husband has recently quit drinking and he will not participate in rough or degrading type sexual acts. Last night he would not follow me in that direction and kept it traditional so no orgasm and I still felt remorseful and ashamed of my behavior.
What Palucci describes is a very common problem for adult survivors of child sexual abuse. As children, orgasms and abuse intertwine, and then achieving an orgasm as an adult in a consensual sexual relationship becomes a challenge.
To overcome this challenge, many sexual abuse survivors reenact the abuse in order to achieve an orgasm. They might engage in similar sexual acts, such as being tied up as they are having sex. While there is nothing wrong with two consenting adults engaging in a bondage sexual scenario, more than that is going on for the sexual abuse survivor. The sexual abuse survivor is actually reabusing herself in order to achieve an orgasm. As Palucci points out, instead of feeling good after the orgasm, the sexual abuse survivor is left feeling empty and remorseful.
Another way that sexual abuse survivors reabuse themselves to achieve an orgasm is by fantasizing about an abusive scenario during sex. For example, a survivor of ritual abuse or gang rapes might fantasize that a crowd of people are watching as she has consensual sex. While, outwardly, there is nothing “abusive” about the consensual sex, the sexual abuse survivor is projecting herself back into an abusive situation in order to achieve an orgasm. Once again, instead of the orgasm feeling good, the sexual abuse survivor experiences deep levels of self-loathing after the orgasm.
Unfortunately, when many sexual abuse survivors give up the fantasies or reabusing sexual acts, they also lose the ability to achieve an orgasm. This doubly frustrates the sexual abuse survivor, and then every sexual encounter produces pain and shame.
My next several blog entries will talk about this issue in more detail. I don’t claim to have all of the answers because I am still working on healing this in myself, but I can share what I have learned so far.
Good Resource for Healing from Sexual Abuse:
The Sexual Healing Journey: A Guide for Survivors of Sexual Abuse (Revised Edition)
Photo credit: Lynda Bernhardt
The only thing I’ve found to do is accept the fantasies so I don’t have to be inorgasmic totally. For a good while now that doesn’t feel shameful because I finally trust myself not to act on the fantasies. More healing will come with time, I guess, but even this is a big step forward for me.
Hi,
this is kind of an off-topic comment.
I’ve come across your blog this afternoon and have been on the internet reading it since and i couldn’t tell you just how inspiring i find your healing story and how brave its protagonist.
Yes. I am the one too. Mine is a different story in a different setting and with different characters. But the genre is the same. I believe there is an army of us out there, in the process of or in the hope of healing.
I had done a lot of self-healing work (yoga, meditation, journalling, poetry) for a number of unrelated to my childhood issues (depression due to life changes, stress at work, moving places, divorce, etc.) before the first glimpses of pre-rational abuse memories started to stir and growl at me. I have recently realised that I probably have a DID and set the course for organising a sort of a “family reunion” for the coming Christmas. My teen alter is in charge of the event as she’s always the one volunteering to show that she is grown up enough to cope by herself! LOL
I’m writing this with humour because despite the emotional upheaval that child abuse brings into a person’s life, the healing process is amazingly intelligent and creative in a puzzle-like manner. So, when there’s no pain, there’s the fun of self-discovery.
Thank you for doing what you are doing! Your blog is very insightful and has a warm autobiographical touch to it.
My eyes need a little rest from the screen now but I will be back for more reading and maybe commenting.
Welcome to my blog, Irina. :0)
– Faith
Thanks for talking about this issue Faith.
~palucci
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hello
i’ve been working on healing from this crap forever. also a recovering addict/ptsd of course and depression.
over the past year or so i’ve been experimenting with bondage. one of my fantasies is for the person i’m with to ‘molest’ me in a fantasy… we do faux rapes and its the best most intense orgasms i’ve ever had. even just thinking about it later.
altho he’s the only lover i’ve ever shared the details i have with. he wont go near that fantasy with me. but i feel empty all the time anyhow.
no matter what. the world sux. i had hope for awhile but that was long ago.
i’m done with shrinks and psych meds. i’m a little different. i guess but fk it.
its never guna get better. i only hurt myself so what difference does it make
Rachel,
It can get better. The key is learning how to love yourself. It really is that simple, but it is also the hardest thing that I have ever done in my life.
Take care,
– Faith
hi.
i’m not sure who commented to what as i got 2 updates in my email… ??
but i’m not one for any type of rhetoric…
i know i know
one day at a time
you cant love anyone til u love urself.. well i do love people .. humanity as an activist and advocate. i’d give my friends the shirt off my back.. and my children are my world….
so i’m sorry but i guess we can agree to disagree in some cases…
i’m also a phsych major… and probably the most valuable book in changing ones life and gaining empowerment
to me was Charlotte Kasl’s 16 steps to empowerment..
it really makes clear how society is set up and where we all land, how we ought not ever to apologize for who we are or what we feel..
it’s a book to help with any sort of trasformation. whether it be addiction or changing to a different life-style or more accurately ‘you’ way of living.
as best i can put in words here.
Thank you for that though
(i’m almost 50 lol i’ve heard that a few times in my god i have no clue how many years of this.. i appreciate it ..truly… it’s just something i don’t subscribe to rhetoric…. i have to be able to feel its true for me, and i don’t)
take care and thanks for your help
also with Lieberman’s bill in the Presidents hand i think i’m done blogging or leaving anything on the internet.
So i wish you all the best of luck
i will probably not so gracefully as is my life is a series of awkward events lol
had to leave with rhetoric 😉
truly, good luck to you all and may you find the peace within yourself to just get thru
anything else is extra
and i wish you more than survival.. i wish you get to thrive
at least someone…
peace
rachel ( :
sorry… i USED to be a psych major;)
double major… i wanted to correct that.. no longer in school
takecare of yourselves & be true to yourselves
best you can
much love ( :
thx so much but i hate myself a large amount of the time.. i’m 47… …
div for 16 yrs.. engaged again, fiance died to cancer 6 yrs ago..
hey u only live once and i’m finding the OPPOSITE to be true with me. bc i’m dtoxing from methadone TREATMENT .. to get onto suboxone bc of the insane federal mandates and regs of late… after 14 yrs i’ve spent the last year and a half bringing my dose down. so nothings gunna get better soon…(bc sex produces natural narcotix/endorphins, its almost NECESSARY during this)
.. no i’m afraid things are gunna get worse… alot worse first. even nurses there tell me to expect that.
.. i can go inpatient to do the switch when i get down to 35 mgs…
… my friend and i live too far away to be able to meet more often than we do.
MY THEORY
its all about living out my fantasies WITH someone of my CHOOSING… i actually think its made things BETTER.. not worse.
i always used to want my ex or whomever i was with to hold me down … but they never got the hint.
this is the first person who ever in my entire life inquired about my sexual BOUNDARIES ( didnt realise i could have them before.. seriously)… so even tho i’m sorta ‘wild’ in bed in the kitchen living room etc.. lol
its the only fun i have. and i get to feel GOOD, establish boundaries and experience sexual experiences in a submissive manner of my choosing.
usually i send a few fantasies … let him choose which one… and get it going … 😉
my baby turned 18 yesterday. empty:? empty nest empty this ` empty that.. may as well have some fun..,.
cuz u never know when ur times up and i have done therapy, medication, meditation, past life stuff, present life intensive out patient programs, hypnosis (ICK)
volunteered for family crisis and took the course to do so back when i first moved here.
loving oneself ?? having ONE good friend i know is there…for sex, support etc… maybe i will someday … but i’m not holding my breath
lol but for those of us who are emotionally, financially, spiritually crippled… i used to make a difference.. doing advocacy work. i still do when i can but underground 😉
its amazing to me how LITTLE the mental health/health/addiction professionals just dont get it.
theres no continuity of care anymore and nobody looks at others holistically.. just in myopic manners that deny the existence of the patient/client as a whole person and any chance of real healing.
when one has physical and addiction as well as mental health issues going along with it all.. (dually diagnosed)
loving urself aint that easy
i dont WANT to go to therapy u see? i’ve been for years and years and years
i want to just get my anxiety med .. period.. BUT now in order to do that you MUST go to therapy. Usually with a therapist thats young enough to be ur own kid with about that same knowledge.. srri but the last few years thats what i’ve experienced
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i do agree that with the wrong person you could wind up in more dire straits but with someone who understands ur past, wants to please u.. and doesnt abandon u
even if it is just for mutual gratification… i had this theory that if i could maybe not ‘relive’ but maybe ‘replace’ some of the negative esperiences in my life with a new fantasy, choices about WHO i want to touch me and WHERE i wana be touchd.. set up boundaries in other words
perhaps healing wd be nearer and those thouts in my head
might be replaced with better ones
ones that 2 consenting adults agreed to and
yes… its about being happy, having FUN, and healing
i have experienced exactly what u said, the emptiness after
thats why i’m so picky now.. but i do need sex so what can u do.
have the best possible you can think of is all i can say and be careful.
“dont grow a wishbone where ur backbone used to be” lol
if this sounds disconnected its because it is… this dtox is not alota fun…. and affects EVERY part of my life…while i get to feel emotions that have been dormant for over a decade..
along with this…
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i’ve never approached sexual encounters like this but its seeming to go fine thus far ( a year) and i havent had a better friend in ages
thx again… apologies for my brain 😉
thank you for taking the time to answer and the interest to helpl…
and i’d be curious to know what u think
peace
During this last year, I went through the process of recovering memories of sexual abuse and healing the damage it caused . . . my leading symptom was a need to fantasize about rape in order to orgasm. I documented that journey in a journal — I’m posting excerpts from my journal on my blog — I invite you to read it . . . it may help you know you aren’t alone . . . thank you!
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I keep read sites that talk about becoming relationship free, and seeing your information is encouraging, because it is not so easy as they say it is..
Hi, Finding Love Again.
Unfortunately, nothing about healing from child abuse is “easy.” :0(
– Faith
Hi, Faith,
This is an interesting idea that makes a lot of sense, and it’s very clear from anecdotal reports of many people who are into BDSM who were subject to abuse as children, particularly sexual, that oftentimes, kink is indeed used as a way to reenact the abuse, and even to help rescript a lot. I haven’t heard about it specifically being used to enhance orgasm, but more about the power exchange nature of D/s relationships used to help reclaim one’s own personal power.
I’d just like to add for clarification that childhood sexual abuse (or abuse of any sort) is far from the only reason people who enjoy it engage in BDSM activities.
What few studies exist indicate that there is no higher percentage of practitioners who have abuse in their backgrounds than in the rest of the population. (I have some issues with that and question it, but that’s another subject not for your blog.) Best estimates, though, are that some 40% of the population engages in (or fantasizes about) some activity that could fall under the kink umbrella – far too many for the idea of child abuse to be the main precipitating factor.
I have met so many people men and women who get into bondage because of childhood sexual abuse and fail to realize how in the pusuit of orgasm they are hurting themselves–turning to drugs afterwards or suicide.You can heal with a therapist, loving self care and a loving partner.My brother and sister were sexually abused and have suffered only with my brother sexually abusing others to gain empowerment.He is in jail now–because he refused to get help when offered.Please see a therapist and work through the shame.You will find the loving woman inside you who will enjoy and expect always a caring sexual experience….You can do it!!